>> steve: as we wrap things up, tomorrow geraldo, and dr. ben carson and an 2345, you're going where? >> to the kentucky. >> alisyn: see you tomorrow. bill: good morning, everybody. 9:00 and a fox news alert. investigators say they tried to destroy evidence for a friend, a friend who is a the boston bombing suspect. we're getting new details on these three men under arrest charged with obstructing justice and lying to investigators repeatedly lied until the truth came around. at least what we can report here today. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom.". martha: they could be in hot water. good morning, bill. they went into dzhokar's dorm room. destroyed a backpack that have gunpowder that may have been used in the boston bombings. lawyers for one. men say he did not do this.

dias kadyrbayev absolutely denies the charges. as we say from the very beginning he assisted the fbi in the investigation. he is just as shocked and horrified by the violence in boston that took place as the rest of the community is. he did not know this individual was involved in the bombing. his first inkling came much later. bill: so where do we go today? peter doocy live in boston. did dzhokar ask the men to remove evidence from his room, his apartment or dorm room? >> reporter: no, bill. they allegedly figured out he plant ad bomb here on boylston street on their own in part through text messages like this one recapped by the fbi in the criminal complaint. they say suspect dias kadyrbayev texted tsarnaev that he looked like the suspect on television. his return text contained lol and other things he interpreted as jokes. you better not text me. come to my room and take

whatever you want. you remind one month before marathon monday. dzhokar apparently told the two kazakhstani suspects that he knew how to build a bomb over a meal. a few weeks later they go his dorm room in pinedale haul in dartmouth and realized he was a fbi suspect. and determined that the backpack full of hollowed out fireworks and vaseline in the room turned out the that fbi was right. along with robel phillipos, took the stuff and after they saw media reports about tamerlan tsarnaev violent death and their friend dzhokar name in the media reports along with a picture released the day before. bill: piecing all of this together, peter. it is fascinating. what kind of charges do these three face? >> reporter: very serious federal charges, bill. the american, robel

phillipos, is being charged with lying to federal investigators during a terrorism investigation. he faces right now up to eight years. he got off to a bad start in court yesterday because the judge scolded him for looking at the ground instead of looking at bench. as for the kazakhstani suspects they face up to five years each for obstruction of justice charges. they were actually in custody before yesterday for visa violations. we're learning that one of them. azamat tazhayakava was here in the united states on an invalid student visa. he left school on january 4th. the visa should have been voided but, nobody at customs got the memo. so they let him back into the united states on january 20th, about two weeks later and almost four months to the day, bill, before he is now being accused of helping one of the boston pommers cover his tracks. back to you. bill: those questions are he leading us to a guest in a couple minutes here that will be fascinating. thank you, peter. peter doocy live in boston.

are the arrests now that proof the investigation is far from over? and what might investigators learn from the friends of tsarnaev? in a moment, u.s. attorney general under george w. bush is our guest today and what these arrests are really about. we'll talk to him coming up in moments. >> there are other big story this morning, the fbi has released the first images of three men who are wanted in the deadly attack on our u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, back on september the 11th. now we're getting a look. these grainy images show the images at the consulate during the attack and are wanted for questioning. one member of special forces who watched attack unfold has been talking to fox news. he says that the u.s. identified the main suspect but they are dragging their feet, the administration he says, on making an arrest. adam housley spoke with this source in an exclusive interview and he joins us adam.ow from los angeles. >> reporter: good morning,

martha. yeah the fbi put out the pictures only a few hours after our report. they say it is a coincidence. our source says that is kind of a big coincidence for them to happen. meantime he talks about a number of things. one is, you mentioned the person they believe is the mastermind. there is also some other issues here. the communication between the state department for example, and the military on the night of the attack in benghazi. >> what difference at this point does it make? [gunfire] >> reporter: the lack of action in benghazi makes a big difference to multiple sources on the ground that night and others who witnessed the events unfold. >> they had no plans. they had no contingency plans for what if this happens. and that's a problem that the state department is going to face in the future. they're dealing with more hostile regions, hostile countries. this attack is going to happen again. >> reporter: our source who was monitoring the events in benghazi in realtime reveals a lack of reaction by the

u.s. state department, the pentagon and the white house on the night four americans were killed. he suggests more could have been done to save lives and asked, were multiple security warnings ignored? this was the reason given by then secretary of defense leon panetta. >> you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information. >> i could see the initial confusion in the beginning. you know, you have a situation that's developing. the problem with state department is, they don't have those procedures in place. >> reporter: we're also told by multiple sources shortly after the attack began, around 9:40 p.m., special forces put out a call sign for all available assets, military and otherwise in the vicinity to be moved into the position to help. special operations gave the call sign? >> reporter:. >> yes. >> reporter: but assets did not move? >> assets did not move. >> reporter: four american lives were lost that night and six others were injured

injured? >> my whole reason for sitting in the seat if this gets somebody oaf their butt to poke them in the chest to make my guys do their job and finish their job i feel like i've done my work here. >> reporter: martha, take into account on the night of the attack the security situation in the country was under chris stevens. but what the ambassador distress call was pushed that went to his undersecretary or understudy who was not in the country. it reverts back to the state department. undersecretary for management patrick kennedy and hillary clinton. the question is what did they know and did they get some of these call signs, these warning signs. our force says very likely they did. took a lot of courage to come forward. a whistle-blower to step in front. camera and still afraid what would come from this. he didn't give us classified information. he gave us information he feels is not being told. martha. martha: quite a moment that when he says the special forces did signal they

wanted help and that help never came, adam. >> reporter: multiple times, martha. multiple times. martha: that is incredible story. we've got these hearings and hopefully this will trigger something that will spill into more information on all of this. this is so important. adam, thanks. great reporting. great to talk to you. bill: we'll talk to peter king later this hour about those hearings later today in fact. on the jobs front. weekly unemployment claims falling to 324,000 this week. that is the lowest number we've seen in five years. fox business network stuart varney from "varney & company". the number looks decent. what do you see? >> it is a better number but it is still not a good number. the big picture we're still running a 350,000 a week. that is the average for the past few weeks. that is 350,000. that is the layoff denominator. that is the number of layoffs we're having. that is still, bill, not too high. bill: yesterday we saw private sector jobs were well below its target. put that with this one.

>> the big picture is, job market, job creation remains very weak. the bigger story is what the authorities are trying to do about it. in america, ben bernanke announced that he may have print even more dollars. in japan they're printing as many yen as they possibly can. a half hour ago we learned that the europeans had joined in. but so far unemployment rates are not falling the way they should when you are printing all this money. >> all these governments are making money cheaper, right? they're just, just going lower and lower. what the effect of that at some point? >> the effect of that is lo lower interest rates which is having a good effect on the housing market in america but it is making bonds very unattractive and bang cds, very unattractive for you savers. wall street, the stock market has taken off because bonds are useless. bank cds are virtually paying you nothing so you pile into the stock market. that the effect of money printing. bill: tomorrow we get a bigger picture on jobs.

what happens? >> only way you get the unemployment rate down is to literally hundreds of thousands of people to drop out of the workforce. if that happens, the unemployment rate may come down to 7.5%. if it doesn't happen the rate stays where it is or goes up. it is a very weak job market. bill: at the moment it is 7.6% nationally. >> yeah. bill: we'll get that tomorrow. thank you, stuart. talk to you tomorrow. see you on fbn at 9:20. 10 minutes away. got work to do so get after it. jobs picture --. martha: very tough. bill: how little came up at the press conference. you normally, that is job and issue number one in so much of the polling we see. martha: we'll see you who the numbers come out tomorrow. not a pretty picture according to stuart. we'll see in the morning. we have breaking news right now. we're tracking a massive five-alarm fire. firefighters are battling that. we'll get you breaking details coming up. bill: there is breaking news on this story. obama administration appealing order to make

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no injuries and an investigation into that collision. but it is pretty crowded out there and surprised it doesn't have more often. bill: the new arrests in the boston terror attack now, what can investigators learn from the friends of dzhokhar tsarnaev? john ashcroft was u.s. attorney general under president george w. bush and now ceo of the ashcroft group, and, sir, welcome back here to "america's newsroom". >> delighted to be back with you. bill: based on what we're learning day by day, sometimes hour by hour, to those who believe these were knockoff jihadis or lone wolves, what would you say to them now at the moment? >> well it is always too soon to conclude that and the big risk if they were acting in concert with others or getting assistance from others or connected to others that is where we have additional jeopardy of something else happening somewhere else. and the transcending responsibility we have is to prevent or default additional acts. so what's going on now and

what should be going on and i'm sure is, that the communications, the connections, the various things that would relate to these individuals are being examined, mapped and explored. there's a process sometimes called link analysis where you're finding out who they were talking to, who they were related to, what kinds of things they had been doing, to learn whether they're part of something bigger. whether there were other participants that escaped the city. a wide variety of things that might well be learned including whether bomb-making materials or bomb-making instructions were somehow shared and whether if they were shared, whether they were transmitted to the terrorists who committed the act acts in boston or whether they were somehow related in developing the technical capacity to assemble the bombs and detonate them. bill: on that front i don't know if the circle has widened yet at least after the bombing the circle

certainly has widened. now we know there was a ping when tamerlan went to russia but no ping when he came back into the country. one of those arrested yesterday was living here without a visa. he came and went when he wanted to too. no visa at all. you know the debates we've had for 12 years since september 11th. with regard to the widow, the wife, she has not been taken into custody. she has not been mirandized. would you expect that or allow her to continue with her life in order not to squeeze her hoping you get some information out of her very soon? what is your view on that? >> well, there are a whole variety of questions like this. they're all important to ask and it may take a while to answer them but, yes, the more individuals that are involved in the investigation, the sooner one or two of them decides, it is really in my best interest to be a cooperator here because i'm in very serious trouble. i want to minimize the extent which my whole life is committed to being incarcerated, detained and

so maybe i had better begin to speak. if one begins to speak, the lawyers for the others are likely to say, you know, that individual is trying to minimize his responsibility and at your expense or you're in big trouble. perhaps you should be talking. sometimes lawyers can help defendants in these situations understand just how deep the trouble is in which they are standing, and sometimes, after a person has legal help, he learns that he should be cooperating far more profoundly than he was initially. bill: that is an excellent point because at least one of them was questioned two or three times and did not start speaking or providing information until the third or fourth interview. that is an excellent point there. some attorneys argue you want to get them with lesser charges now so they don't clam up. do you agree with that? is that true or not? >> well, i don't think this is, this examination or investigation is over.

these charges are serious charges but they're less than 10-year maximums. i think the obstruction charge is about a five-year maximum and the other charges, well, they're not the very serious but assisting and aiding in the commission of terror and, is kind of charge where there are very serious and significant extended penalties. and so i think it could well be that other charges will follow and obviously these individuals may be involved in having violated state laws as well. there doesn't appear to have been a characterization by this administration that this w related to the war on terror. if it were and if there were certain linkages drawn, you could have the potential for even war crimes charges but we're a long ways away from that and i don't think the evidence at this point appears to be pointed in that direction.

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bill: from here in snoring, check this out. firefighters battling a smokey five-alarm fire in the bronx after a garage burst into flames earlier today. that smoke was visible from 20 miles away on a clear

morning here in the northeast. we hear the fire appears mainly contained to a garage. look at that smoke. it goes on and on. luck killly no reports of injuries on the human side. martha: the justice department is now stepping in to try to halt the plans to lift nearly all restrictions to sell the morning-after pill over-the-counter to kids as young as 15. now the fda has approved those sales, as i said without a prescription to these young girls and the plan is set to go into effect just days away but the judge already has ruled the pill has to be available to all ages with no restrictions which also opens a whole other can of worms on this. eric -- eric shawn joins me live. hi, eric. >> reporter: this controversial and politically charged ruling. it gives girls as young as 15 access to birth control. morning after, plan b, one

step pill. but now the administration is filing notice it will challenge that. the justice department seeking to reverse the agency from its own agency, fda that from a judge's order that it made available without a prescription over-the-counter with basically no age limits. previously girls younger than 17 were barred from getting the original plan b pills without a prescription. last december the president said he felt most parents would agree, mr. obama saying girls as young as 10 could potentially get the pills along with his in his words, bubble gum and batteries. well in his original ruling federal judge edward corman slammed the fda original move blocking girls from under 17 getting it writing quote, based on a strong showing of bad faith he said and improper political influence. he called the decision arbitrary capricious and unreasonable. even accused the agency of misconduct. the administration will argue that corman

overstepped his the federal east agency's policies. they will ask for a stay to prevent the distribution of these pills to girls under 17 as they have the appeal in process, martha. martha: eric, specifically what is the critics take on the judge's ruling here? >> reporter: the decision, original decision, say girls as young as 15 certainly should not have access to the pills. they say if they do they should potentially get a prescription, not buy them over-the-counter and have their parents permission. some plaintiffs in the case that sued the fda originally while they were suing on the right of behalf their 13-year-old dursts to get the pills. but supporters have contended there should be no restrictions on the availability much these emergency contraceptives. they say that will prevent unwanted pregnancies and they claim it is really needed. martha? martha: eric, thank you so much. what a story, huh? what do you think? what does this say about where we are right now in this country? tweet us at bill healther,

@marthamaccallum. we want to get your thoughts on this. this is a big, big societal question we face right now. bill: lines are open right now taking your thoughts online. there are new questions too about the boston bombing investigation today. lawmakers will hold hearings to find out if the intel community dropped the ball before that attack and congressman peter king, he will be front and center in those hearings. he is live here to answer our questions. martha: we have got that which is huge. then you've got this as well today. new witnesses coming forward who witnessed what happened in benghazi. we're days away from a major hearing on this on capitol hill. how will these americans change this investigation? >> i don't think that we've gotten to the bottom of what did the state department know, when did they know it. why they didn't take action. and then during the attack itself why weren't assets brought in? why weren't, why wasn't our government doing more to protect the americans who

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guess is the message there. steve hayes me now, senior writer for "the weekly standard" and fox news contributor. steve, what do you make of that? >> well that is a pretty stunning claim to hear from jay carney. if you look what we haven't learned in the intervening eight months. we don't have any real leads on who did this, on why they did it. we've had, we've had suspects that we have interviewed. one was in tunisian custody. we had a couple hours with him, with his lawyer present. then he was actually released, set free. you have mohammed jamal in egypt who i understand we have not had access to and are not pressing the egyptians to get access to him. we have others suspected interviewed by the "new york times" in coffee shops but not yet brought into custody. only yesterday we finally saw pictures of three additional suspects the administration put out. if it is right, we certainly need to know more and we should have a lot more progress on bringing them to justice after eight months,

if it was in fact a long time ago. martha: sorry for the interruption. what do you make of the release of those pictures and the timing of it, steve? >> mean, look, the white house and fbi insist that this was just a coincidence and that it had nothing to do with the fact fox has done some very strong, hard-hitting reporting including eyewitness accounts what happened on the ground that sort of spurred them into action. that is what the administration claims. i would say i'm skeptical of those claims but that's their argument. martha: so what about the finger-pointing that is going on now between jay carney and the attorneys who are claiming to represent people who have these eyewitness accounts on the ground? let's listen to one more piece of sound with regard to that from jay carney yesterday. >> what you have is an attorney sighing she represents somebody, claiming that she is not getting the security clearance and yet the agencies involved have no information about that at all. martha: what is going on here? we spoke to victoria

toensing, i should mention we will speak to her again next hour. she claims two letters have been sent directly from darrell issa to the state department requesting security clearance so that these witnesses they have can speak to them and tell them what they know? >> yeah, look, there's not a question about that. the letters were certainty. they were released publicly the information is available for anybody who wants to see it. it is a little curious to say nobody is familiar with this and on successive days the president, jay carney and the president say we don't know anything about this. they are public letters. there are two of them. they detail in some length the process and what victoria toensing is trying to do. whatever the history was, did they make a formal application to the state department? i don't know but the fact is these are letters that have been public for two weeks. if the white house didn't know it before, if the state department didn't know it before, they certainly know now because by definition jay carney and the president have gotten questions about

this. martha: i want to play another piece of sound because the stakes are getting extraordinarily high here. you have one side that says they have witnesses they say they know what happened before, meaning like the cries for more security, during, meaning where was everybody and who knew and what did hillary clinton, and then after on all of this and here's another piece of sound i want to replay from adam housley's piece because this points to the larger national security issue at not getting to the bottom of what happened. let's listen. >> they had no plan. they had no contingency plans for what if this happens. and that's a problem that the state department's going to face in the future. they're dealing with more hostile regions, hostile countries. this attack is going to happen again. martha: so beyond what happened to those four americans and the justice the president promised us on this, this man is pointing to the thing, to the fact there's a lot of weapons that are loose out there. this is a hotbed of terrorism in this area in

north africa. what is going on with that as part of this investigation, steve? >> well it's a good question and we know that the administration is particularly sensitive about those questions because we've now had sort of a window into what they were thinking in realtime as the attacks unfolded because of this house report that was released last wednesday which goes into some detail citing administration e-mails. so you can see what was being said at the time and we know those e-mails tell us that the administration was very concerned that there had been all of these warnings leading up to those attacks and that the warnings, that the warnings weren't maybe taken seriously enough. we know that is a concern. it is a concern going forward. what changes have their been as a result of this? the state department said they implemented all of the suggestions in the arb, in the report that they commissioned but what does that mean on the ground? does it mean beefed up security? does it mean our diplomatic facilities are safer around the world?

martha: if it didn't, why won't you really want to scream that from the mountaintops to some extent what you learn and where it changes things if you can in terms of security clearances. thanks so much, steve. great to talk to you. >> thank you, martha. martha: we'll speak to victoria toensing who is an attorney that represents one of the whistle-blowers. there are three state department officials, one cia official the lawyers are saying want to talk and have not been given clearance. we'll get her reaction to say basically that jay carney is saying she is not telling the truth about this situation. we'll hear what she says about all of that coming up in a little while from now in "america's newsroom". bill: pretty remarkable. there are some questions that still linger. the comment about that was a long time ago has raised eyebrows. bret baier at the top hour. meantime, martha, it is may but no one told mother nature. video from colorado. there is heavy snow out there. they got like 18 inches in some places. there are worries branches in the trees could start coming down. after all we're in bloom.

>> it is cold and i do not like it. >> i know we need the moisture but i have to say i'm getting a little sick of spring snow. wish we had it in the winter instead. >> we had plenty of warning. everybody was already complaining about it the you about it is not so bad. >> fox gave us a good weather report so we need knew what to expect. >> it is beautiful. we need the moisture. you can always use it in colorado. >> it is really heavy snow. there is a lot of moisture in this. it means full reservoirs and less fire danger but it hurts my back. bill: he made two great points, despite shoveling the storm is welcome news in colorado. that area faces a severe drought there listen, it is may 2nd. it could not be more beautiful here in the northeast. martha: those people are incredibly good natured, wouldn't you say? wouldn't you still be losing it? bill: if i lived in colorado. look at that. martha: we have a gorgeous day. don't even show it to the people in colorado i'm sorry but it is gorgeous here finally.

let's take a look at the markets which are eight and a half minutes old today, up bp 50 points. investors reacting to the european central bank cutting key interest rates trying to get things juiced up a little bit in europe. tomorrow's u.s. jobs report. everybody is waiting for that. the dow fell 139 points yesterday. bill: it is a story that has stirred raw emotion for law enforcement and for the victims and relatives for years. a state trooper killed 40 years ago today and the woman convicted has been on the run living in cuba for decade. in a few minutes we learn the brand new details that the fbi is working on that case just today. martha: plus what can we learn about what happened in boston and whether it could have been prevented. congressman peter king on what he expects congress can do when it gets hearings underway next week as the investigation widens with the arrest of those three men. we'll be back. >> understand the whole scope of this action, who

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was one. '90s memorable hits. sadly one of the members passed away. chris kelly, was 3 had years old. his mother said he was a trend-setting backwards pants wearing one half of kris kross who loved making music but to us you he was just chris. doctors will perform autopsy. they believe his death was the result of a drug overdose, sadly. bill: too young. still getting to the bottom of boston. congress about to take a big whack at that. congressman peter king on homeland security committee. he will be in the hearing room when they hold that hearing live. welcome back to our program here. >> hello, bill. bill: for the viewers, for americans, what will this hearing accomplish. >> chairman mike mccaul is the new chairman of the committee. he is scheduled this. as far as i know it is the first hearing in congress about what happened in boston.

what we want to do and i'm sure chairman mccaul and his staff want to find out what precipitated this, what could have been done to prevent this from happening? that could involve how extensive was the fbi's investigation? did the fbi deal enough with the local police? i know for instance boston police commissioner davis will be one of the witnesses as is joe lieberman who in the past has written extensively about the need to improve our counterterrorism methods and abilities here in this country. so basically it is not to monday morning quarterback as what we can do to prevent it in the future. for instance, did the fbi speak to anyone in the mosque or imam when they were trying to find out if they became radicalized. or did they not do that because of political correctness? did they share enough with the local police as far as involvement of the local police? did they even ask the boston police department about the older brother whether he could have been radicallized? these are issues i think we have to, more and more i think we'll see these

attacks coming from within our country as opposed to from overseas and --. bill: especially when you have the golden ticket. that is the american passport. appears to me based on the witness list, the police commissioner in boston ed davis will be able to answer a lot of these questions. two days ago you were here in studio and you just repeated one of the points you made here. did the fb i-share any information with local police? you see that as absolutely essential when it comes to fighting at the local level and stopping it before it happens. do we have any of those answers right now, sir? >> no, i don't believe we do and more and more it will be become essential. only way you find out what is happening in the community. fbi does a great job but they can't have the input into the community or get the feel for the community that local police have who work there day in and day out who have contacts day in and day out. i think more use should be made of that. for instance when they were trying to find out if the older brother was radicalized, did they go to the police and say what do you have on him, what do you

know about him? i don't think they did. in the aftermath the fbi not sharing information with the nypd about a possible add-onto this attack in times square. bill:,000 -- now you think about fort hood, three years ago, happened in december of 2009, three people were shot and killed. nidal hasan was watching the website with al-awlaki. he was listening to his sermons online. this is something we saw and whether we're willing to prepared and able to act on these individuals becomes relevant to boston. tamerlan was tipped off to us by the russians. we know the fbi at least talked to him. what kind of red flags were sent up then? that is the kind of thing that joe lieberman can on your committee, right? >> joe lieberman has been a leader for years on this issue saying we have to be more aggressive. we have to put political correctness aside.

again on this, we knew the older brother. we knew about the web sites. we knew about the some of the contacts yet nothing was done. seems once the preliminary investigation was ended, and i think more could have been done at that stage but it was not kept open, but the subsequent information going from russia to chechnya, coming back into the country about what he was posting, about the radical sermons, dealing with the radical imams, none of that, was brought back by the fbi. and also, when word came back, had come back from chechnya or back from russia, i don't know what happened? it seemed to go to the joint terrorism task force but no one knows what happened. that is under the direction of the fbi. there are a lot of unanswered questions here. some of it is human error. some of it may require the justice department to change its procedures as to how much leeway the fbi gets when it conducts these investigations. bill: this one got through. michael mukasey the other day said five individuals had been stopped and questioned by the fbi that went later on it carry out

terror attacks. that will be a focus too. thank you, peter king, out of west babylon. >> thank you, bill. martha: the fbi is set to announce new developments today in the 40-year-old case of a murder suspect living on the run all this time in cuba. they sheave she shot this man, a trooper. we're going to give you the details. bill: also raging wildfire forces hundreds out of their homes as these flames get so close to a city. we'll tell you where that's happening. look what mommy is having.

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bill: you're going to need a bigger bathtub, or even a warehouse. tourists lining hong kong harbor to see this sick-story duck set sail. kind of a cute thing. martha: that is too much. bill: dutch artists made it, meant to bring a message of peace and harmony. the duck will float on

display in the harbor of hong kong till june. martha: i love that. there are new developments in a decades-old case. the fbi released brand new details in the murder of a new jersey state trooper. the fugitive who is known, her name was joanne chesimard. now she is known as assata shakur is living on the run in cuba. she escaped from prison more than 30 years ago. rick leventhal is live from the fbi newark division headquarters in newark, new jersey this morning. good morning rick. >> reporter: fbi, new jersey state police and state's attorney will announce this morning the joanne chesimard is the first woman ever named to the fbi's most wanted terrorist list and reward for her capture is doubling to $2 million. here's why. 40 years ago this week joanne chesimard glared at a police photographer while handcuffed to a hospital gurney, wounded in a shootout with new jersey

state troopers that left one officer injured and another dead. despite her murder conviction and life sentence, chesimard has been living free in cuba. >> flies in the face of the great memory of the trooper she killed and that trooper's family she is allowed to roam. >> reporter: these rare crime scene photos provided by fbi and state police show the aftermath of the fatal traffic stop on the new jersey turnpike on the night of may 2nd, 1973. chesimard already wanted on numerous charges was headed south with two other members of radical black lib rakes army, carrying hand guns and multiple ammo clips. their trunk full of weapons bullets and fake i.d.s. after one officer stopped their vehicle, trooper werner foerster arrived as backup. chesimard an her companions opened fired. they were tried separately and both were sentenced to life behind bars. in 1979 chesimard was transferred to this women's prison where a maximum security wing was created just for her.

later that year she escaped with help from fellow revolutionaries and she has been on the run ever since. in 1984 chesimard resurfaced in cuba where authorities say she has been living ever since protected by castro's government, railing against america, calling her trial a legal lynching. the fbi says the facts proved otherwise. >> there wasn't any doubt in the jury's mind. there wasn't any doubt in the judge as mind. there definitely wasn't any doubt in law enforcement's mind. >> reporter: trooper foerster's son eric was three when his father was killed. the fact that chesimard gets to enjoy time with her family and my father did not is wrong. it is a loss that will stay with us forever. >> new jersey state police will not give up on catching her. >> reporter: colonel fuentes and special agent in charge aaron ford will be here within the hour to explain why chesimard is being added to the terror list and how they hope to get her out of cuba, martha. martha: what a story, rick. thank you very much. 40 years later. bill: we chased that story

down four decades later and we chase this story down. an american citizen held in north korea, now sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. what kenneth bae is charged with and what it might take to set him free. martha: police clashing with protesters on the streets of a major american city. why were these people out there on the street and what happened? [bleep]. [shouting]

martha: it is a showdown

between a benghazi whistle-blower and the white house and we have breaking news on it this hour. welcome, everybody, to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. we want to get right to it. press secretary jay carney denying allegations that the state department is trying to silence anyone, trying to silence any whistle-blowers by blocking security clearances for their attorneys claiming the administration has not received a single request from any lawyer. here's jay carney. >> what you have is an attorney saying she represents somebody, claiming that she's not getting this security clearance and yet the agencies involved have no information about that at all. martha: well the attorney who mr. carney is speaking about joins us live now on the phone, victoria toensing. she is representing one of the state department employees, one. three. victoria, welcome, good to have you here. >> good to be here. martha: he is basically saying you're not telling the truth. >> well his nose grows long

as he says that. what, what could he possibly answer about the april 16th letters that darrell issa sent to the state department saying, please provide the process for clearing an attorney to receive classified information. and then when know answer had been received for 10 days, another letter was sent on april 26th to the state department saying, you know, we wrote you on april 16th. you didn't come through. could you please provide process for clearing an attorney for discussing classified information. and it always amazes me, where is the white house press corps. they're sitting there, duh. they can't do a follow-up? martha: just on camera, for a moment, guys. these are the two letters victoria is talking about. they are dated april 16th and april 26th. one is to mary mccloud, principle deputy legal advisor at united states department of state. other is to john kerry secretary of state. and that is self-explanatory. where does this go from

here? in order to, as i understand it, these hearings, next week in order to have your clients disclose to you what they know, which is necessary, they need this clearance. so it looks like this is being stonewalled. >> i have talked to my client and i have information that is unclassified, but my client can not tell me the complete story because of, so far i don't have my clearances. let me give you an update. after and only after the tv appearances and thank goodness for fox, did darrell issa get a letter, yesterday, yesterday. this letter could have been written april 17th, the next day of his first letter saying any lawyer should go to the assistant legal advisor for employment law. now that wouldn't have been the place i would have thought of to go to get a clearance. that's why we knew and darrell issa knew to ask for the process because every agency is different. i know that. i've been around long enough that i never had to go to the state department for a clearance. i have gone to other places.

so, i called that place and two hours later called the place and just got voice mails that only after i was on fox, yesterday afternoon, and provided the woman's name, i got a call. and within an hour, and my husband is also representing a whistle-blower, my husband and i had both put in for our clearances. so we're waiting now to see if we're going to get it. martha: so the excuse on behalf of the president, who said he wasn't familiar with any of this, that these whistle-blowers really want to come forward to tell their story and you would think that, the white house would be very interested in what they know since they have claimed they have an ongoing investigation and that they want justice in this case for the four americans who were killed. so it seems that their response based on what you're telling me now, oh, they just went through the wrong procedure. they were stuck in the wrong channel and that's why we didn't know about it? >> no, we didn't have no procedure to go through, we had none, until yesterday.

and then when they gave me the place to call i called within a few minutes of getting that place, and they had voice mail going for about two hours until i said the person's name on it. v and then miraculously i got a phone call. martha: this is not, you know uncharted territory for you. >> no, it's not. martha: obviously you have a long history in these kinds of cases and you are also a top attorney for i believe it was was the department of justice, correct? >> i was chief counsel for the senate intelligence committee, for barry goldwater and deputy assistant attorney general and one of my areas was national terrorism. so, i've had clearances out the --. martha: now you are hanging on the phone, and listening to a recording while you have one person who is a state department employee, current employee? >> yes. martha: who very much wants their story told about what happened that night. the before, the during, the after, so this material information to benghazi goes to the requests for more

security at this embassy that were denied, correct? >> yes, there are different ways you could put it. you might also consider whether there was, a lot of security there and it was taken away. martha: well woe know that there were requests for more security and we also know that, that they decreased security. >> yeah. martha: as well. >> or took it away. and i can't imagine that being done without the top person at the state department, kennedy, knowing about it and i don't think pat kennedy did much without hillary clinton approving it. >> you know what the other side says in this. well, you know, congress passed a bill that cut funding and some of that ended up hurting the embassies including the embassies in benghazi. they think that is the reason that happened. >> well, i guess the state department ought to cut out some of their touchy-feely courses. i would assume they could prioritize and know that a place like libya needs security, maybe not so much in paris. i don't know.

martha: all right. victoria, thank you very much. i hope you will come back and join us again as this continues to move. >> there's more to come, i can tell you. martha: thank you. we'll speak with you soon. >> bye. martha: thanks very much. bill: for more, we bring in bret baier, host of "special report", 6:00 p.m. eastern time. good morning to you. down in washington. where is this going? where do you think this is headed right now? >> the apex of this currently will be wednesday, this hearing by darrell issa and the next basically coming forward of witnesses and what he says will be new information in this case. you know, we had this report from house republicans, five different committees, this, study report, now democrats slammed it. the administration slammed it. and we reported on it, but, boy, after you go back into the report and there is a link actually on our website, on foxnews.com. you can read it for yourself. there are specific e-mails

in this house report. there are specific details in this house report that go to a number of different questions in this benghazi investigation and, i think a lot of that will be the focus of wednesday and we will likely hear from witnesses we haven't heard from before. bill: has there been an account from the white house what the president was doing that night? >> not a tick-tock of exactly, you know, minute by minute where he was. we don't have, for example, a picture of the situation room. we've, we have pictures of many other incidents where he's there. we have what the ar. about, the report, independent report put out about the incident. and that's what the state department and the white house point back to. and these republicans, and other people who are now wanting to speak out say

there is much more to this story. bill: we wait on that. in the meantime just about 24 hours ago we had a picture released of three men thought to be suspects who were on the grounds of the consulate that night. why did this image come out yesterday some eight months later? what explains that? >> well, we asked the fbi about that and they said that they were talking about putting these images out for months. it does come two days after adam housley's talk to that special operator who said that we know who the mastermind of the attack is and he is walking tree in libya -- free in libya and we put that on "special report" in a series of three pieces. so these pictures came out. the fbi says they were looking at it well before that series of reports came out. that's what they told us. bottom line, this is more than eight months after the at -- attack. as you can see they are pictures from a camera posted at the consulate,

from a high position. one would think they would have had that for quite some time. bill: do you know if any of these three individuals have been identified? do we know their names, nationalities? >> we don't, we don't know at all. and frankly we don't know who exactly they're looking for and we don't have any of that. we had in the early days of this, from intelligence officials reports that the leader, one. leaders of ansar al-sharia was the mastermind and a libyan by the name of kumu, who actually had been held at the u.s. prison in guantanamo bay. bill: whoa. >> that he was somehow tied to it, after pressing on that, and trying to get more information, didn't go anywhere. so, we're back pressing again. bill: we'll continue to stay on it. thank you, bret. see you 6:00 tonight. bret baier there in washington. >> sure.

bill: to our viewers at home, what do you think about what jay carney said on benghazi? give us your take on twitter. send us a tweet a at@martha maccallum or @billhemmer. our lines are open so fire when ready. martha: an architect of obamacare warned of a coming train wreck for this bill and harry reid says they will need more money to make sure it is not a train wreck. huh? panel weighing in on that coming up. bill: 100 days into the second term the question whether the president still has any juice. karl rove reacts live today. martha: there are massive wildfires raging in california right now. experts warn conditions today could make things even worse. >> once it all sets in real hard and i can actually sit down and have a good cry with good friends. my neighbors ink that the lord that they're all a okay. i'm very thankful this was the only one that got damaged in the fire.

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bill: beautiful day to be in the rose garden. live look, happening in a moment, president obama announcing two new picks for his economic team. he will nominate penny pritzker to be the next commerce secretary. a heir to the hyatt hotel fortune. big fund-raiser for the presidential campaign. very close to the obamas in chicago. president set to nominate michael froman. he is wife house chief economic affairs visor. if you want to watch it it is streaming live on foxnews.com on our website online. martha: looks like democrats are now getting a little bit nervous about obamacare after one of the senators who helped to create the bill said that he was very concerned. >> i just see a huge train wreck coming down. you and i discussed this many times. and i don't see any results yet. what can you do to help all these people around the

country who are going, what in the world do i do and whether i know what to do? martha: that is not helpful, right? top senate democrat harry reid says i agrees with baucus but he has got a solution. the president can spend more money on it. here is reid in a radio interview on this yesterday. >> max said, unless we implement this properly it will be a train wreck and i agree with him. i wish we had money just to do this on its own but he has agreed, he is determined he will take money from some of the other things that he feels are less important and in the health care bill and put it on letting you and others know what's in the bill. martha: really? okay. joined by doug schoen, former advisor to president bill clinton and a fox news contributor. monica crowley, fox news radio show host and fox news contributor. two of my favorite people. welcome to you guys. >> hi, martha. martha: doug, what is he talking about? >> he is talking about a system not fully implemented. health exchanges largely rejected. medicaid adoption by the states, again not being adopted. bottom line 50 to 60 million

people who need care are unlikely to get care under this bill anytime soon. if they do, it will be at a much more expensive prices than we now anticipate. martha: monica, the president talked about this so little, right? we hear so little from the white house about health care. you know, is there a meant coming when he says look, let's talk about this? let's talk about health care. let's talk about where we are. let's talk about what needs to be changed. this is very important to me and i want to make sure it works. where is that? >> you would think he would be very enthusiastic about this. obamacare is his signature piece of legislation. it is profoundly unpopular he refuses to talk about it. he didn't talk about it during the presidential race. he still is not talking about. this law was passed three years ago. this federal government under president obama had three years to put in place what doug referred to. none of it is ready to go. by the way they're spending $30 million of taxpayer money on pr to try to sell it to the skeptical public. when reid says we have to

spend more money to implement it, maybe some of that $30 million should go into instead of trying to sell it back to us. martha: we're starting to get inkling of this on the campaign trail, doug and what it will mean in the midterms. looking at south carolina race, you have elizabeth colbert busch, in a debate with mark sanford. said it is extremely problem matic. it is expensive. $500 billion more than it was. democrats keeping this at arm's length in this election. >> what monica said, is exactly right. it is unpopular. beyond being unpopular, you would expect a democratic president who wanted to you can successfully implement it would not blame the republicans and but call the republicans to the white house to say how do we achieve our goal incrementally, revisions health car, whatever is necessary to get the american people the care they need? that is not happening. it is becoming a political issue. i think it could backfire on the president. martha: there are some

columnists writing about how concerned they are in leadership in the presidency. i want to pull up the latest kaiser poll. for so long the numbers on health care were 48% approval numbers, 48 to 51, somewhere in there. we've seen a huge shift in this number. april of this year, 35% giving it a favorable rating on the kaiser poll one we watched throughout. that is huge drop. that brings me back to the point i made before. where, doesn't the president need to lead on this issue? if he cares so much about it, which he made clear, where is that sort of moment? >> he hasn't really owned it. i get back to the fact it has been so unpopular. contrary to what democrat senator chuck schumer said at the time of its passage, the more people know more about obamacare the less they like it. we see it in those numbers. that is not the only poll. the horrors haven't kicked in yet. most of the american people, 53% in the same poll, martha, they want the thing entirely scrapped or at least changed in very profound ways.

he is working against a huge public tide against this before even the horrors of this kick in, higher taxes, higher premiums, less access to doctors. medicare being gutted. government rationing. all of these things have yet to kick in. once you see that happening, then i think you will have a real revolt among the american people. martha: think back to the presidential election, judge, mitt romney ran on one of the first things i would do to repeal obamacare. that was not to be for him but it does make you wonder what is coming down legislatively in the pipeline here. anything? >> legislatively, we don't have any fixes that i'm aware of. governor romney was actually hurt by the fact that he was the original architect of obamacare in massachusetts. bottom line what monica said is right. the american people want it fixed. they do want broader coverage but not this way with this legislation. martha: seems like we're all talking about it, but the people who have the, you know, handle on the door don't want to talk about it at all.

>> absolutely. martha: doug, monica, great to see you guys. >> thanks, martha. martha: bill? bill: two years ago navy seals killed usama bin laden. >> usa! usa!. martha: there were celebrations outside the white house. celebrations at ground zero in new york city. and president obama declared al qaeda on the path to defeat. but one of our next guests says, that fight is far from over today. [gunfire] martha: violence on the streets of a u.s. city where police were attacked for the second straight year. we'll tell you what is going on. [shouting] @ñ@@@í

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martha: may day protests turn ugly in seattle.

look. [gunfire] martha: dozens of demonstrators out there. they pelted police with rocks and bottles. police responding with flash bang grenades and pepper spray to break up the crowds. that is not a good sane. several store front windows were smashed. 17 people were arrested in this. protests over immigration policy and organized unions and civil rights groups. bill: crazy, huh? they need more coffee there. police in michigan now releasing a second surveillance video in the search for a 24-year-old mother. her name is jers can heeringa. they believe she was abducted while finishing a shift at a gas station late friday night. this new video shows a silver minivan passing by the station at about the same time they believe she vanished. they released a video on monday, show a gray or silver minivan near the gas station. former new york city chief investigator steve hardy is

with me in the studio. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, bill. bill: we're getting word from the family in north shores, michigan they will put out a video at home, which shows you a, the desperation they have. >> yes. bill: also to give viewers and people maybe even watching this program a different view of this woman, in case they see her. >> bill, it is important that the families keep their due diligence as media in following this case and by releasing that video it's going to enhance because they will see personal side of jessica. so hopefully that is going to help to some degree. bill: you have a couple clues here. you have the silver minivan. could be a chrysler town and country. that is the way it is being described. how good of a clue though is that? >> it is a good clue to identify the suspect vehicle. law enforcement will do an online, off-line search from the department of motor vehicles trying to match that year, that make, that model and that color to registered vehicles from not only that state but they will begin in the state and venture on outward. bill: what do you mean, on-line, off-line.

>> off-line they do a search to match that specific car to a specific registered owner within that state. they will narrow down to some cars that have been destroyed. narrow down some people far away. hopefully it will come up in close proximity where the abduction occurred. bill: you have two videotapes to work off but you can not identify the license plate number. >> no. that is problematic identifying the individual. we have a good composite sketch. however not having a plate number and not even knowing whether the vehicle is stolen or not, law enforcement will go to the presumption that it is not. that is big break in the case once they identify the vehicle. bill: being the best investigator you can right now. check the history of purchases at that service station? >> based upon his conversation with her, it would lead you to believe that he may be local. so they're going to look at purchases. they will go over credit card purchases. they will go over and speak to people that maybe have seen that individual in that van at that service station, maybe socializing with her or others. bill: you say the timeline

is good regarding the van. what does that mean? >> the timeline is good in it fits the time she was likely abducted, aren't 11:00 p.m.. shortly after the video was seen on surveillance tape. how many cases including even the boston bomber we identified through video. this is a good clue. bill: that is a good point. you can match up the timeline, and give you a good idea where she was and possibly where she was going. on the screen for viewers, two numbers to look at there. they go back to western michigan, this area of norton shores. we'll get that out to the viewers. steve, thank you, with us here in new york city. let's hope they find her. >> yes, sir. bill: and soon. thanks. martha. martha: it was a wall of raging flames marching closer to hundreds of homes and now the army of firefighters out there battling this wildfire are facing a new challenge today. bill: also the president just about 100 days into his second term. 102 on the calendar.

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jo wildfires have forcedee evacuate weighing -gs and threatening homes in california. you have fast-moving flames fueled pie the high santa ana winds you hear about in that

area. very dry in calm reu camarillo, california where one man lost everything. >> i lost my mom a month ago. i didn't think anything would get me down after that. just this here ain't going to get me down. i've got to pick up my bootstraps and carry on. martha: carry on. good nor him. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles. isn't this early for wildfires? we don't usually see them. >> the conditions are like august and may. temperatures will be in the 90s today. you add 30-mile an hour wind and get this. a raging fire, a thick column of smoke, hundreds forced to flee from their homes. this fire broke out in banning, riverside county about 50 miles east of los angeles. the summit fire grew from 60 to almost 3,000 acres in a matter of hours. those high winds making it nearly impossible to control the flames despite a dozen helicopters and tankers repeted

lee dropping water and retardant. firefighters evacuated about 500 residents, several horses as well. they lost just one home, however. lighter wind overnight helped. the fire now about 40% contained. martha. martha: the wind of course what everybody worries about there. a quick change in the direction could really send this into a threatening situation in a lot of home areas, right? >> reporter: yeah, we expectant r-r winds to kick up -- santa ana wind to kick up again this afternoon. the strong winds blowout of the mountains off the mohave and sonora desert. teufpl i can lee hot and dry, 40 miles an hour can wreak havoc in the late summer not in the spring. we have red flag warnings in effect. you see the bulldozer there, they are trying to put a ring around the fire. all of southern california now has a red flag warning through friday night. we pray for no downed power lines, lightning or arson. already this year cal fire has responded to 700 fires, that is

much higher than normal and we do expect a very busy fire season. about 30 minutes ago we had a fire break out in convenien ventura county. they got 200 fires there in 30 minutes. that's how much precaution we have going into the season. back to you. martha: fire fighters, and the bulldozer they have their work cut out for them. that is tough work. our hearts go out to them. william, thank you very much. bill: 34 minutes past the hour. what sort of influence does the president have a bit more than a hundred days into his second term? that was a key question from this week. >> to you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress? >> if you put it that way, jonathan, maybe i should just pack up and go home? golly. bill: it was a moment that is being written about even today. karl rove has been juicing down there in austin, text as.

a former chief of staff for george w. bush and a fox news contributor. welcome back. it's been a couple of weeks. >> thanks, bill. bill: how did you react and respond when that question-and-answer happened? >> a pretty tough question. that question gets asked only if you're not making progress. every president in his second term faces a challenge of becoming a lame duck. generally later rather than sooner. the president has made two big mistakes in my opinion that have made it appear that he has less influence and less power, and the first mistake was picking the wrong issues. what have we spent the last four months talking about? we spent it talking about guns and the sequester how everything is going to collapse tomorrow if we don't reverse the sequester. how we need more taxes and spending and a budget. on all these issues the president has come up short. the robust gun package that he proposed never even came up for a vote. the sequester turned out, his strategy turned out to be a bust. his budget was dead on arrival

even among democrats who aren't even willing to offer it up for a nobody is rallying to his cause. a president begins to look we caweak when he picks the wrong issues and comes up short. what are the american people concerned about? the economy, jobs, deficit and spending and the fiscal strength of the country, and whether or not they are going to be able to have a secure retirement and the president is not talking about any of those issues. bill: i don't think it came up the other day in that press conference. dana millbank "washington post" wrote somewhat of a scathing article about how he analyzed the reaction in in press conference. and also this was written, weather roosevelt, bill clinton, or george w. bush every second term president must come to tkpweups about the reality that it can't be just about his agenda or just him. is he doing a or b on that at the moment? >> well, it's all about him. it's his agenda not the country's agenda, and then he's got own odd tone to it. the president has been

hyperpartisan, everything is somebody else's responsibility. he's been disengaged in leading and very active in campaign. the tone is negative. rather than bringing us together and finding common ground he spent most of his time excore kwraeuting people for failing to support his agenda. every president in the second term begins to lose pour. you do become a lame duck the moment you win your second term but this president is accelerating that process by his tone and the issues that he faces. don't could you count any president out. bill: to that point about not counting him out his approval rating at still at 52%. that is a clear majority of people who approve of the job he is doing. reflect on that. >> it depend on what poll you look at. in context, his composite -- his composite approval ratings are lower than any modern second term president at this point in

their second term. you know, president bush who was in the midst of a very unpopular war in iraq and afghanistan was even higher than president obama is at this point. now, president obama does have a way to get back in, he is the president after all. he can change and be focused on the issues that people care about and he can begin to make progress on those issues or he could be held by events. there is a likelihood there could be a supreme court vacancy this summer and the president begins to look stronger and bigger during those kind of battles. bill: that would be an opportunity, you're right about that. i have about 30 second left here. flip this around now. you're cooking on midterms in about a year and a half right now in 2014. what do republicans do at the moment to capitalize on some of of the senate vacancies and the house vacancies. the president right now is gearing up to era midterm sweep in the house which would give you two years until a run to the

white house. >> i wrote about that in the "wall street journal." i wrote about the senate today. i theufp he has little to no chance of taking the house and -pt republicans have an outside shot, not a great shot but an outside shot of taking the senate and certainly an excellent shot if they get good candidates and run good campaigns of making significant than gains in the senate. there are 21 democrats up, six of them in states that romney won by ten points or better. only one republican up in a state that obama won by ten points or later. the researches are likely to make gains. if they get to 48 or 49 which is really achievable, big changes will be on the senate. there will be like a 1 point democratic majority on most of the committees. the democrats have a shot of moving at 45 to a 51. it will be very hard and difficult for them to do. the president has to raise a

boat load of money for them. bill: there is plenty of time to still talk about that. thank you. martha: a special moment at the library dedicated to karl rove's famous boss. president george w. bush greeted young advice it toers. they were selected as the first visitors to the replica oval office. look as that it beings like exactly like they are in the oval office. bill: happy birthday. i thought the library event was great. any time we see them, whether it's clinton in arkansas or president bush in texas. martha: nice. bill: an important day in u.s. history to remember here. [chanting] bill: wear marking two years since the death of osama bin laden, killed by u.s. navy seals. in a moment, though, we look back at the sights and sound of that day with a former head of the special cia unit that found

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bill: fox news alert. just getting this from the country of kazakhstan, you're about to hear from the father of one of those arrested yesterday in boston. this is the gentleman by the name of azamat tazhayakov. here is the father saying that his son would have nothing to do in his words, with the bombings or any association there. roll it. let's listen. >> we were shocked. everyone knows my son. he's never fought with anyone. he's never been in touch with any radicals. he doesn't go to the mosque unless we go for some reason. in america he has never even been to a mosque. he's not the kind of guy who would bother someone. there are those kind of 100% naturalized americans. he was that kind, a social guy. we were shocked. they don't believe, they still don't believe that he did that. bill: all right that just in

from the country of kazakhstan. keep in mind that that son, his son, has not been charged with direct involvement in the bombings in boston, but for crimes committed afterwards. so that just in. breaking news here on "america's newsroom." [chanting] usa. usa. martha: it was a night of seemingly nonstop celebration and for a very good reason. americans and around the world learned that osama bin laden had indeed been killed by a team of u.s. navy seals. as we mark exactly two years since that historic day the president's announcement that the world's most wanted terrorist had been captured and killed just before midnight is still fresh in the mind of so many. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the

leader of al-qaida. and a terrorist who is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children. martha: there were so many people that worked for that moment to happen. michael shore was one of them. a former cia counterterrorism anal he list and the head of the cia's osama bin laden unit. when you first got that news, i don't know how you first got the news, what was your reaction? >> i was delighted. it had been a long hall since 1996. a man started a war against us, killed our people and made us look silly on a number oef indications. i was delighted he was dead. i was just a bit concerned and i think it's unfortunately panned out over time, is that so many people regarded him as a celebrity, rather than a leader, and we have become less concerned about the war on terrorism because we killed this person. well when he died he died fully

a success in what he wanted to do, and his leadership, his legacy, his organization lives on, and is a big problem for the united states to this day. martha: you know, a couple of days after that the president said that al-qaida was on the path to defeat, we've heard him say that al-qaida has been decimated. do you believe that? >> i believe that the cia and the military have done an extraordinary job in pakistan and afghanistan to whittle away at the leadership, more than whittle away, to carve out the heart of the leadership in that part of the world. as we've been so bore sighted on afghanistan and iraq, really that we've kind of missed the fact that al-qaida has grown and its allies have multiplied in africa, they are back in a very strong way in iraq. we helped them take power, or something like them to take power in libya. it appears we are going to help

them take power in syria. and, you know, the perception in the muslim world, however our leaders dress it up, is that the u.s. military was defeated in iraq and in afghanistan, and if you recall osama bin laden's generation was generated by the belief that they beat the soviet super power in afghanistan. so this -- when i speak like this i very often get, you know, you hate american, you hate this. you hate the israelis, all of this stuff, but i just don't understand as the problem gets bigger we seem to talk of it as being less threatening. martha: wow. that is a very strong statement that really they believe that they won and that they beat us in iraq and afghanistan, and i under the backlash that you get for it but i also appreciate where you're coming from. when you look at boston, what goes through your mind with regard to that? there was so much talk, was it

foreign, waur was it domestic? does it matter? >> i think it matters, i think that fellow tamerlan who got killed probably get some type of training on how to build bombs when he was in dagestan earlier. the problem i see with boston is that for the past decade we have kind of in america have had a lot of sting operations, and i don't think we have a real feel for what the problem is. martha: so true, that is very true, we have to leave it there, michael but we'll talk more. >> okay. martha: thank you for contributing to the moment that happened a couple years ago today and your work as well. >> thank you, ma'am. bill: jenna lee comes up in a moment here "happening now," what you cooking up today? jenna: following up on that conversation the airplane part discovered near ground zero so many years after 9/11 is believed to be one of the planes, participate of one of the planes that hit the twin towers. the nypd is here with us,

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bill: kentucky bourbon is big business. especially in kentucky, and tours of bourbon country, they are boosting jobs, probably boosting the hangover two. garrett kenny is live in louisville for the big race this weekend. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning to you. kentucky's known certainly for the stunning horse farms and the kentucky derby at churchill downs. the demand for bourbon is growing like never before and business has never been better. it's a new golden age for bourbon, and distillers are struggling to keep up with the

record-high demand. the thirst for bourbon is even spilling over into tourism where the kentucky bourbon trail saw more than half a million visitors last year alone. >> it's the old adage when the tide rises all the ships sale. >> mint julip tours opened in 2007. the service that takes groups from distillery to distillery along the bourbon trail has grown 41% each year since opening. >> we started with one vehicle, we now have seven. we started with my wife and i. now we have five full-time employees and 17 part time tour tpaoeudz an guides and drivers. >> this woman was looking to sell her bed and breakfast a year ago. >> because of the growth of the bourbon trail has just been amazing. >> the last six months business has picked up so much that she is having to hire outside help just to keep up with all of the cleaning and laundry. >> it has picked up so tremendously that we are now wanting to expand instead, so

i'm planning on adding two more rooms so we can have a total of six rooms here. >> reporter: and she says this past february and march were the busiest in business that she's ever seen. bill. martha: bill: thank you, garrett, cool story. at churchill downs in louisville. enjoy the race this weekend. martha: a frantic manhunt on for the man who killed an 8-year-old girl. the latest on that is coming up. de our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover, and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i've been with bp for 24 years. i was part of the team that helped deliver on our commitments to the gulf - and i can tell you, safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge safety equipment and technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all oudrilling activity, twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely.

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bill: big packed day. we'll see what we get tomorrow. i think tomorrow is friday isn't it? martha: i thought it was friday about three times this week. i'll take your word for it. "happening now" starts right now. see you tomorrow, everybody, have a good one. jon: yes, bill it is friday tomorrow. brand-new stories and breaking news. jenna: new developments in california as a manhunt expands for the killer of an 8-year-old little girl. the latest on that. also a new request of the president not nor new laws but for more leadership. we'll speak to one writer who says america is getting something else from the commander and chief. plus, why one of two teen hikers rescued from the california wilderness could now be facing jail time. a twist to the story. it's all "happening now." one of our lead headlines today the fbi asking for help from the public in its hunt for three people who may be connected to the terror attack on our consul